300 PRC – Ballistics and Comparisons [2020]

The 300 Precision Rifle Cartridge (or 300 PRC) is about to be the hottest new cartridge, especially in long range shooting and hunting circles… the world just doesn’t know it yet. Now, to be fair, I regularly warn against adopting the latest new “fad” cartridge. After all, there’s always a new cartridge coming out that promises to do what no other cartridge has done before. Usually, the claims are true (mostly), but I rarely think it is worth chasing the newest thing. https://vimeo.com/294885189 First, you could be an early adopter only to have the cartridge fade away and you’re left with a rifle for which you can’t find ammunition. Or, if there is ammo available, it’s expensive and hard to find. I’m a big fan of using a cartridge that can easily be found at a local sporting goods store – you never know when you’ll be at a shooting match or on a hunt and need more ammo (thanks for losing my ammo, TSA). When the 300 Norma came out, I was outspoken about questioning whether it was smart for the military to adopt it for the ASR program. Part of my concern was that it might have been a new “fad cartridge,” the other part was that I didn’t think there were enough performance benefits to outweigh the giant 338 Lapua-sized action needed (especially when other calibers where fairly close in performance…e.g. 30 Nosler). Also, even the 6.5 Creedmoor which has well proven its worth, didn’t win me over until recently. Now, I’m on the 6.5 Creedmoor bandwagon!

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So, why do I think that the 300 PRC is going to be a winner? Essentially, it is the next step up from the 6.5 Creedmoor in design and performance and it resolves issues with other similar cartridges without any of the negatives of the 300 Norma.

300 PRC Background

The 300 PRC is effectively a name brand for the 30-375R cartridge. Hornady took the 375 Ruger Compact Magnum and necked it down to accept a 30 caliber bullet. This provides some great advantages – good enough to have me an absolute fan of the 300 Precision Rifle Cartridge even though it just came out.   According to inside sources at Hornady, one of their motivations for coming to market with the 300 PRC was to avoid the unsafe conditions presented by the 300 Norma when shooting at angles. Apparently, the load density of the 300 Norma resulted in some inconsistent pressures. Just as I warned earlier about adopting the latest fad, the 300 Norma has ALREADY been passed up by a Tier 1 special operations group. That’s right, they just selected the 300 PRC for their new rifles in lieu of the 300 Norma.  (some have wondered if this is early speculation….nope, I can confirm the actual order)  This advice goes both ways: don’t adopt a fad like a 300 Norma because it might be replaced very soon. But, maybe don’t replace it with another fad?  It’s too soon to tell on either account.

300 PRC Ballistics

The SAAMI spec drawings note that the 300 PRC will be able to push a 225 grain bullet at 2,800 fps. At the range, I shot Hornady TAP Precision 300 PRC 225gr ELD Match ammunition.  Using my Lab Radar doppler chronograph (this thing is absurdly awesome), I measured a consistent 2840 fps out of a 24 inch barrel on my Barrett MRAD.  Frank Green of Bartlein Barrels says that 2,900 fps is easily attainable with 225gr bullets from a 26″ barrel.

300 PRC Rifle

As a note, Bartlein arguably makes the BEST barrels available. If you’re in the market, you can snag a Bartlein barrel at Brownells. Based on the results, the performance of the 300 PRC bridges the gap between the 338 Lapua and the 300 Norma. This was very interesting to us – the 338 Lapua was the king of long range tactical shooting and the 300 Norma took off as a lighter and faster bullet out of the same case. As I’ve noted, I am not a fan of the 300 Norma. Sure, it has awesome ballistics on paper, but it requires the XL action of the 338 Lapua and it’s not that much better than alternatives.  Enter the 300 PRC. As you can see from the chart below, it has better energy on target and drops less than the 338 Lapua Mag past 1,000 yards and it recoils a LOT less. It is also a much smaller cartridge so it’s easier to carry and the rifle can be smaller and lighter. [et_bloom_inline optin_id=”optin_3″] Also note that although the 300 Norma out performs the 300 PRC, it’s not by much. I’ll take the 300 PRC any day over the 300 Norma. Not how the 300 PRC (red line) is in-between the 338 Lapua (green line) and the 300 Norma (blue line) in performance (and is slightly closer to the 300 Norma). It does all this in a smaller and lighter recoiling package. Want the absolute best performance? There are rounds that out-perform the 300 Norma. But, want a great balance of everything? I’m loving the 300 PRC. In the graph below, the solid lines are the ballistic path (drop) and the dashed lines are the energy.

Green = 338 Lapua Mag Red = 300 PRC Blue = 300 Norma

300 PRC Ballistics

Here’s some data on a 225 grain Berger Hybrid bullet traveling 2900 fps out of the 300 PRC:

Range  (yards)Drop (in)Drop (moa)Drop (mrad)Wind. (in)Wind. (moa)Wind. (mrad)Veloc.  (fps)Energy  (ft-lbs)Time (sec)
0-1.500.000.000.000.000.00290540270.00
1000.000.000.000.020.020.00277036630.11
200-3.03-1.45-0.420.140.070.02263933250.22
231-5.03-2.07-0.600.220.090.03259932220.25
300-11.06-3.52-1.020.480.150.04251230110.33
400-24.59-5.87-1.711.190.280.08238827210.46
500-44.23-8.45-2.462.400.460.13226724530.58
600-70.64-11.24-3.274.300.690.20215022070.72
700-104.58-14.27-4.157.100.970.28203719810.86
800-146.89-17.53-5.1011.011.310.38192717731.02
900-198.58-21.07-6.1316.321.730.50182015811.18
1000-260.77-24.90-7.2423.252.220.65171614061.35
1100-334.79-29.06-8.4531.852.760.80161412441.53
1200-422.17-33.59-9.7742.093.350.97151610961.72
1300-524.71-38.54-11.2153.953.961.1514209621.92
1400-644.54-43.96-12.7967.374.601.3413278402.14
1500-784.18-49.92-14.5282.275.241.5212377312.38
1600-946.62-56.50-16.4398.545.881.7111526342.63
1645-1029.93-59.75-17.38106.436.171.8011175952.75
1700-1135.29-63.77-18.55115.956.511.8910825592.90
1800-1353.61-71.81-20.89134.037.112.0710435193.18
1900-1604.00-80.62-23.45152.417.662.2310144903.47
2000-1888.38-90.16-26.23170.938.162.379894663.77
RangeDropDropDropWind.Wind.Wind.Veloc.EnergyTime

I shot 6.9 Mils up from my 100 yard zero for this 1,000 yard group from my Barrett MRAD (it’s a phenomenal rifle see our MRAD review): long range shooting

So, why get a new caliber for essentially a few percentage points better performance than the 300 Win Mag? Great question. I loathe belted magnums. It may not be a real issue to have a belt on a cartridge, but it is definitely a perceived one that I don’t like. 🙂

Also, the length of the 300 Win Mag case as compared to its overall length doesn’t allow for longer/higher BC bullets to be loaded out as far as they like to be. The 300 PRC, on the other hand, is a non-belted magnum that can push the same weight bullets slightly faster without reaching dangerous pressures. Also, the cartridge design is begging for the high ballistic coefficient bullets that will stick out longer due to their longer sleeker design. Not sure what ballistic coefficient is or why it matters? You should check out a copy of the bestselling Long Range Shooting Handbook!

Even though the 300 PRC is fairly close to another cartridges, it is superbly accurate by design. In this way, it is much like its little brother, the 6.5 Creedmoor. The case dimensions and chamber are just begging for accuracy.  If you can see a reason to chose the 6.5 Creedmoor over other similar calibers, then the 300 PRC is going to be a great step-up for you. NEW INFORMATION IS COMING IN DAILY ABOUT THIS CARTRIDGE – WATCH THIS SPACE FOR UPDATES!

300 PRC Rifles

More and more manufacturers are adopting the 300 PRC – this is great news for the cartridge!

The first rifle (we know of) in 300 PRC was the Barrett MRAD. However, Ruger now offers a Ruger Precision Rifle in 300 PRC, Bergara offers 4 models of rifles in 300 PRC, and Christensen Arms and Cooper firearms also offer multiple models in 300 PRC.

For target/range work, we recommend the Barrett MRAD. For hunting, get the Bergara Highlander.

300 prc

300 PRC Ammo

Hornady currently makes two loads in 300 PRC, a 225gr Match-grade offering and a 215gr Hunting load.

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    53 Comments

    • Bob joe
      Posted November 19, 2018 6:20 pm

      Why did you not use the same bullet in norma and prc?

      Norma got a g1 bc of .686

      Prc got a bullet with a g1 bc of .777

      Hornady must be doing some advertising around here $

      • Ryan Cleckner
        Posted November 19, 2018 6:23 pm

        I took the loads that were available in my ballistic software. I don’t think there’s any doubt that the 300 Norma beats the 300 PRC. I just don’t think it’s worth the larger case/receiver needed.

        • Jason
          Posted March 6, 2019 10:34 am

          Could you eliberate a little more on the dangers of shooing the 300 norma mag at angles?

          thank you

        • StLPro2A
          Posted June 16, 2019 2:45 pm

          Have you measured or calculated recoil in the MRAD? You reference 24″ MRAD barrel. Barrett P/N 18431 Caliber Conversion Kit in 300PRC SS fluted and 18432 26″ carbon fiber are both 26″. Is that a typo or did you have an early prototype barrel? What will the 26″ expect to provide in MV? GF (she’s a keeper) ordered 18431 kit for my FDay; delivery end of next week.. No MRAD P/N in 300PRC listed in 2019 Price Sheet.

          • Aaron
            Posted June 18, 2019 4:22 pm

            The issue stating it is more powerful than the 338 LM paat 1,000 yards is because you are comparing it to a light bullet for the 338 LM. I am pushing a 300 gr Berger Elite Hunter, G7 BC of 0.415, with 97.5 gr of RL-33 from a 26″ barrel, well below max pressure, averaging 2724 fps. At 2,000 yards I am still retaining over 750 ft lbs of energy, thats 285 ft lbs or 61%, more energy than the 300 PRC. People are getting even more than that with 28 inch barrels. Not doubting the great design compared to other 30 caliber magnums, but to compare it to a 250 gr 338 LM offering doesn’t paint an accurate picture to claim it to be more powerful at extreme ranges.

      • Dave K
        Posted March 16, 2019 12:29 pm

        I made an Americanized 8mm x 68mm Schuler wildcat, using 375 Ruger virgin brass. I can come very close to a Rem Big Eight with ten grs less powder. Mine works through mil Mauser 98’s. Ditto for the 375 Ruger. So where did they grab an extra 3/10ths inch, COAL??

    • Matt
      Posted November 29, 2018 9:44 pm

      I have been waiting for others to offer this caliber in their rifles . Really love my ruger Precision in 338 lapua but the data does not lie and something that wont brake the body up as bad as the 338 yet produces I really want to try . You are the man Ryan thanks again .

    • Carl
      Posted December 27, 2018 3:29 am

      How can you in good conscious compare a 250 gr 338 Lapua against a 225 300 PRC??? I bet your Hyundai could outrun my Corvette when I have a couple flat tires. What a joke. This is a deceitful representation of the capabilities of the cartridge. Let me fix it. 300 PRC is essentially equal to the 300 win without the belt and nearly identical ballistics. There, that’s your entire article.

      • Ryan Cleckner
        Posted December 27, 2018 3:41 am

        Wow, Carl. Didn’t know that an article could make you so angry.

        Honest question, what do you think we should we have compared for bullet weights? Are you upset that they aren’t the same weight for comparison or that they aren’t different enough?

        If you’re upset that we didn’t use the same weight, that doesn’t make much sense to us. That would be like giving your Hyundai and Corvette the same size engine.

        If you’re upset that we didn’t use different enough weights, what would have you preferred?

        • Mark
          Posted May 28, 2019 2:20 pm

          I think the problem is that you picked a load for the 338 Lapua that used a G1 .521 bullet; try a more modern bullet such as the 285 ELD with a G1 of .829 (G2 .427 SD .365) since you are singing the praises of the PRC using an ELD bullet with a G1 of .777 (G2 .391 SD 339). Since I use a 338 Lapua, I saw the issue as soon as I looked at your graph.

          • Mark
            Posted May 28, 2019 2:30 pm

            Sorry…I put G2 instead of G7….distracted doing other things.

        • Andrew polar
          Posted July 23, 2019 12:40 am

          Way to go Cleckner. Always pissing people off. Keep the podcast going by the way! And When you get some spare time, write that book on map/compass navigation. It’ll make a nice addition to my Cleckner book collection. Seriously tho, I’d love to learn how, and be able to teach our boy-on-the-way how to navigate without the use of electronics. Really enjoyed the last episode from the ranch. God bless.

      • Michael
        Posted January 25, 2019 11:27 am

        Carl is not angry, someone is fudging facts to create the illusion that one cartridge case has better performance than one of larger capacity !

        • Ryan Cleckner
          Posted January 26, 2019 10:27 am

          Ok, what facts did I fudge? If you guys would like a different comparison, please let me know the bullet weights/brands you’d like to see and I’ll surely do it! I think that if I did the same weight folks would complain and if I did different weights folks are clearly complaining. Happy to make this article better – are you up for helping?

          • pat
            Posted December 28, 2019 7:28 am

            mybe if you pick the bullets with the best bc for the caliber that will keep everyone happy well most you can never keep everyone happy

            • FireMoth
              Posted January 7, 2020 4:50 am

              Did literally no one else pick up on the statement that the .300PRC was NOT chosen as for being the outright best performer, but instead a performance improvement on the .300WM while retaining action and bolt face compatibility?
              A fact that makes this article useful in understanding cartridge selection, without breaking the internet, as declaring an outright long range performance cartridge would have been bound to do.
              I came here looking to uderstand why the .300PRC might be chosen over its nearest competitors, and the article neatly answered that.
              No one said your favorite pet cartridges were bad.

        • Frank
          Posted March 31, 2019 1:20 pm

          Cartridge are like breast, different size and shape for everyone taste…
          Sent it

      • Mark
        Posted January 27, 2019 2:06 pm

        This guy is right on, the three comparisons within the article are cherry picked to show what the author wants them to show . This article is pure bs.

        • Ryan Cleckner
          Posted January 27, 2019 2:22 pm

          Ok, this is the second request I’m making for constructive input here. Let’s see if any comes in or if folks just like to bash. What comparison would you like to see? I’ll add it. Is it that you all want the same bullet weight compared between the 300 PRC and the 338 Lapua? I’ll happily do that. However, I can imagine just as many guys crying that it would be unfair because one benefit of the 338 Lapua is the ability to shoot heavier bullets. For example, imagine if I was comparing .308 Win and 6.5 Creedmoor, should I use the same bullet weight or popular weights in their respective calibers?

          • Tony
            Posted January 30, 2019 4:45 pm

            Some quick judgement on your article there. I think you were just using a comparison of the cartridge capabilities. I appreciate that.

            I think what would show the capabilities in a comparison between like-cartridges (even though they really aren’t) and a straight comparison with the same projectile, say the 212 ELD-M. 300 PRC vs, 300 WM vs. 300 RUM vs 300 Norma. Same powder loaded to max capacity, same barrel lengths, same day, same distances, on a target shooting for groups. Say 500 – 1000 yds. I’m glad to spend your money.

            I think that would make for some interesting comparisons.

          • Kyle
            Posted February 11, 2019 1:09 pm

            Ryan, appreciate the review. I would suggest running the same test but using 300gr SMK’s or 285gr Eldx in the Lapua. My thinking is that not many people are going to buy a 338 Lapua and shoot ballistically inferior ammo through it. They will be using the caliber to it’s fullest potential. I think this would give us a better real world perspective.

          • Chris Arthur
            Posted February 18, 2019 4:37 pm

            Ryan, do you like this new caliber over and above the Norma and WM? I’m building a PRC as we speak…

          • Neil baker
            Posted February 21, 2019 2:27 pm

            Hi Ryan, I don’t have a dog in this fight, it appears others do…
            I would like to see you do a comparison of the .300WM firing a Berger 210grn VLD, my present load, or even the 212grn ELD vs the .300 PRC shooting the 225grn ELD.
            I don’t shoot the .300Norma, or the .338 Lapua. But I think if you use the 300grn load in the .338Lap and the heaviest bullet weight available in the .300Norma, this should silence the detractors…
            I like the idea that I can just change the barrel on my .300WinMag and (hopefully) get a performance increase without going to a larger action size.
            On a personal note, your calm and reasoned replies are a credit to you.
            Keep it up, hopefully see you at SHOT show next Jan…

        • TrEy
          Posted March 22, 2019 11:26 am

          Hi Ryan, appreciate the write-up.
          Quick question. What twist is your barrel? I’m hearing all different twists ranging from 1-8 all the way up to 1-10 and every decimal point in between. The lightest projectile I’d ever be putting down barrel is 225. And when heavier factory lids arrive, those as well.
          Any input is much appreciated as I only want to buy 1 barrel 1 time.
          Thanks

    • Don Lynum
      Posted December 29, 2018 10:07 am

      I really like the case design, its a very sensible approach to a 30 caliber hunting cartridge, I see its been shot a lot the last few years so not just a flash in pan,

      only drawback I see initially is what factory rifles can accept this 3.7″ OAL of cartridge ?

      I have a Remington 700 action that has been milled to accept a 3.85″Wyatts mag box ,also my 300 Way Mark V action should be close as I think its 3.6″

      I’m having a 300 PRC built on a Stiller Predator action which is designed to accept the longer Wyatts mag box,
      I received my reamer, Hornady Brass and some Hornady 212 ELD-X ammo, now to pick up a barrel.

      Thanks for the updates and info on the 300 PRC.

    • dfp
      Posted December 30, 2018 6:00 pm

      Lol…cranky…

      I’m on board….have been waiting on this for years…was fixing to build a 300 norma….

      Saw this prc while researching stuff for norma….
      Didn’t even hesitate to jump ship…trying to wait calmly for MPA to deliver my 300 prc…

      I dislike the case and the belt of the 300 wm and that’s what I was trying to find….

      Nice write up…cant wait for more…

    • Paul Pronschinske
      Posted January 1, 2019 6:50 pm

      What is the recoil compare to 300 Win?

      • Alan
        Posted January 4, 2019 1:35 pm

        It generates greater recoil than the 300WM. There’s more powder capacity in the 300 PRC.

    • Nick
      Posted January 5, 2019 9:18 pm

      I don’t understand why your not putting a “300 PRC” vs “300 ultra mag ” use both 210 Bergers. Or ELD 212. 300 ultra mag wins. If hornady really wanting to sell this cartilage messed up from the start. The name sucks ” 300 PRC ” . Why not the 300 Creed, or 300 creedmoor.

    • William Parker
      Posted January 7, 2019 5:22 pm

      Just noticed that Bergara is coming out with two 300PRCs in 2019. The Ridgeback looks absolutely awesome.

    • Ryan James
      Posted January 12, 2019 11:57 am

      For your comparison of 300 nm vs 300 PRC I’m surprised you didn’t use. The same bullets the graph is misleading. The other advantage of the 300 Norma is the ability to switch barrel with the 338lm if you wanted. The 300 prc you are stuck with other magnums with similar ballistics.

    • Geno Valentini
      Posted January 13, 2019 9:33 am

      Never heard of a 225 gr berger hybrid.

    • Dustin
      Posted February 4, 2019 5:18 pm

      I liked your article, I found it informative. However, I would like to see a comparison of prc vs ultra mag, Just for curiosity. I completely understand the comparison to 338 lapua, huge action and case, vs moderate magnum. I am researching a long range rifle for me and a couple friends, who want the same as I get so we can compare, and some fun competition. So thank you for your perspective.

      • troy davis
        Posted February 15, 2019 10:40 pm

        Ryan,
        I appreciate the article and effort it took to make it. I am using it as a base line along with other articles. to choose between the 300 win mag. the belt does not bother me. however I feel it is a limited cartridge housed in its current action size. if it were housed in an action with a magazine to allow for seating the higher BC bullets I think it would change the comparisons between the PRC & Win mag. that would be a good side by side review. id it were possible.

    • PHIL
      Posted February 16, 2019 4:11 pm

      We ARE talking Rocket Science here.
      BULLET: Length, Wt., Design, BC…
      CASE: Design affects the way the powder burns, velocity, range, and accuracy…
      POWDER: the Perfect amount and Burn Rate to match the case bullet, and barrel length…
      We have back yard experts throwing apples and oranges at each other…
      Hornady has an R&D team working long hours, day in and day out designing and testing each load with a specific Purpose.

      What’s Your Flavor ? Prairie Dogs, Mule Deer, 1600 pound Brown Bear, or Nailing a target out close to 2 miles ?

      There is No PERFECT Gun ~
      …there’s a Lot of Perfect GUNs.
      That’s why gun safes are being made LARGER…

    • John
      Posted February 25, 2019 4:31 am

      Ryan, if you know Cartman and are familiar with South Park, you know you are using the Lebron James defense: What should I do? With that said, I can see why Carl was upset, and I can also see why you prefer the PRC. As a military sniper, you dealt with life and death, and the chance of a belted case hanging up and messing up a reload is obviously there. On Carl’s behalf, you used an optimum bullet in the PRC, compared to the sub-optimum in the Lapua, as someone pointed out. Are you also a fan of the 30 Nosler? identical performance and will fit in a standard mag box. Just some things I notice reading through your article and comments, Not that I will run out and buy any of them, I couldn’t hit anything with any of them past 300 yards the way my hands shake!

    • Joe Kirby
      Posted March 6, 2019 1:50 pm

      How does the 300 PRC compare to the 300 RUM?

    • Greg Paradise
      Posted March 10, 2019 8:12 am

      Good Article Ryan!
      I think every cartridge that is not long and heavy for caliber will be redesigned so they can get the fast twist rate and BC advantage, why not, it makes total sense. Next will be the 7mm PRC? I’m ok with it and will add a few guns to the safe over time. If cost is a concern Hornady match grade is around 38$ Hornady 300 Norma is 100$ and Hornady 338 match is around 96$ per 20, that is a huge difference, it won’t take many shots to add up to a new gun in the safe!!. I like the exceptional performance for the $. But I’ll stick with the 6.5 PRC for now.

    • Curtis Davis
      Posted March 19, 2019 12:31 pm

      I’m looking at getting into Long range shooting and possibly competition shooting as I start to gain understanding of precise long range shooting. However I’m looking to try and start off with a decent rifle I could grow better at the sport with for many years to come. So should I go with the 300 PRC or 300 Norma? I ask because I see everyone saying great things about the new 300 PRC but based on exapected trajectory looks like the Norma would be better.

    • Piro
      Posted April 9, 2019 11:11 am

      I have found your articles very informative and very helpful in the past. This one left me VERY confused. I can push the 225gr ELD Ms 300 win mag (29″ barrel 1:10 twist) at 2970fps. At a mile I only need 16.2 mils and I stay supersonic to 1900yds. (2970′ elevation) Any monkey I’ve come across can push the same 225gr ELD M (26″ barrel) at 2900fps with any factory Rem700. What in the hell am I missing here? The beltless case? I can load the 225s as long as my pecker (don’t start with the jokes) with no issues on a 300 win mag case. Not trying to be funny here, but what am I missing and what would I gain from a 300 PRC??

    • Bryan
      Posted April 22, 2019 1:53 pm

      Hey Ryan, Thanks for the great article! I appreciate the info your sharing. I will start by saying that I’m solidly in the 338 Lapua camp. I understand that there really is no way to compare the two using same bullet weights BUT I would like to see you do a comparison where both cartridges are at the top of their potential by using bullets with high B.C.’s being pushed at their best velocities. For example, test a 300 grain Berger OTM against your 225 grain hornady ELD-M (or whatever). That would show us which performs best at their top potential. and if indeed the 30 PRC beats out the 338 in energy and drop at long distances. Two excellent cartridges at their best would be fair when deciding if I need a New rifle, new dies and time to get everything right

    • S F
      Posted April 27, 2019 8:25 pm

      Where does one obtain Hornady TAP Precision 300 PRC 225gr ELD Match? It is not even listed on Hornady LE website.

    • Ryan Lucas
      Posted June 13, 2019 9:03 am

      Great article lots of hard work goes into these articles and it’s appreciated. I personally would rather see a comparison of the 300prc 300win mag 300 Weatherby and the 300rum. All shooting the same pills with their max charge in the same length barrel personally I’d say 26”.

    • CARLOS MAGNUM
      Posted June 26, 2019 12:45 pm

      Isn’t it like a 300 Blaser magnum copy ?

      Looks like close to the 30 Boo-Boo too, for those who remember the great hours of this now obscure round ^^

      I still not see anything revolutionary in this caliber, just the new hype thing in ELR matches.

      A caliber that performs a bit better than an existant one, very close to an other one and slightly less than an other other one …

    • Frank Green
      Posted July 11, 2019 7:33 am

      A couple of things to think about. At the time Ryan wrote the article you also need to consider the availability of box ammo and factory chambers which he was shooting when doing your comparisons.

      You cannot accurately compare a .300wm to the .300PRC. The WM cannot duplicate what the PRC can do in a factory chamber and box ammo. Guys saying they can push a 215gr. bullet out of the WM at 2900fps….not happening in a factory chamber with out the chamber pressure going crazy high. To even hit 2850fps with the WM your pressure is going to be in the 71k-72k psi range.

      Also comparing to the availability at the time of loaded .338 Lapua ammo with 300gr bullets and even now there are not that many available. When you compare box Lapua 300gr. loaded ammo they advertise the velocity at like 2723fps. The PRC with a 225gr Hornady at it’s advertised velocity of 2800fps or in Ryan’s case getting 2840fps. does still shoot a little flatter and bucks the wind just a tad more than the .338 does. Yes the .338 has a little more energy at distance.

      Yes recoil is more in the .338 Lapua and .338 Norma. Something to consider.

      Also keep in mind that the selection on the ASR spec. (Advanced Sniper Rifle) rifle requirements the .30cal. is the primary target/sniper round and the .338 was regulated to being a payload round and not a primary target/sniper round.

      Also as has been pointed out to go to the .338 Lapua/Norma rounds you need a bigger bolt face and bigger receiver diameter etc…using a standard mag. bolt face gives you more options in terms of building/making rifles.

      • Tim Fischer
        Posted July 11, 2019 6:34 pm

        If I missed something earlier please forgive me, but where do you place the 300 RUM in this? Other then a magnum action, what do you see as the + or – of the 300 RUM?

        Thanks,

        Tim / Wisconsin

    • andrew polar
      Posted July 23, 2019 1:03 am

      Where is the “hand over face” emoji when you need one. It wasn’t the article for me. It’s the feedback that gets me upset. This dude is trying to show scientific comparisons for your internalized minds to process. While you quickly, outwardly bash it upon grounds of banal minutia. Personalized, preferred crap that you think you know. Here’s a nugget; What you don’t know, is what you don’t know. What you do know, is only what think you know. Gah. quit splitting hairs and listen. The dude can make you a more informed and better shooter.

      • E Jansen
        Posted July 25, 2019 9:00 pm

        I agree Andrew. The bashers are just pissed because what they thought was the greatest might not be and now they have to go spend more money. If this cartridge is as advertised, it will take off on its own merits. If not, then it will go the way of the DoDo. Good article nonetheless.

    • Ed BRINKMAN
      Posted August 20, 2019 7:39 pm

      Interesting read and the 300 PRC interests me for similar reasons as the 6.5 Creedmoor. Obviously. The smart design gets my vote every time because my prior precision machinist background seems to make me despise wasteful design. Although I’m a hunter at heart and don’t have a lot of need or want to shoot game past the 500 yard mark the 300 PRC makes sense to me simply because this is how all cartridges should e designed. I’m seriously looking at one in a Christensen Arms rifle in the future and I’m happy to see that the brass is very reasonably priced from $38-$50 per 50 ct.

    • Adam
      Posted November 10, 2019 2:01 pm

      Ryan this was a great article. It’s sad how so many people can get so emotionally distraught just because you didn’t use the exact ammunition or bullet that they think you should use. I’m curious how many of the commenters that are upset with your writing offered to supply you with ammunition? I’ll guess none. I have a PTG Bomber action that I want to use for a build. I wasn’t sure what cartridge to use it looks like the 300 PRC is just what I was looking for. Thanks for the great article.

    • jOsHua
      Posted December 16, 2019 10:31 pm

      Good comparison as far as I’m concerned. I’m interested in the 300 PRC. Your videos with John Lovell are well worth watching too. Have a great night!

    • Dave Seesdorf
      Posted December 25, 2019 10:19 am

      Great article, a few good replies, and a lot of dumb ones. Shooters are like Gear Heads, they get defensive about their choice in cars or guns! I have or had 3006, 300Win mag.,300wsm, 300Weath.,300RUM,338Win Mag, 338RUM, and my newest is 300prc in a Seekins Havak Pro 2. Mounted a Nightforce 4X14 SHV and off to the range. Shot 5 rounds to zero factory Hornady 212ELDX and then shot 5-3hot groups at 100 yards. 2 of those groups under .5″ center to center, Average for all 5 groups .72″. Best out of the box for both rifle and ammo I’ve seen in 69 years of hunting and shooting. Todays rifles and ammo show what all these years of development have achieved. By the way, the Seekins is not a custom but a factory produced rifle. You hit the nail on the head!!!

    • Luke
      Posted March 20, 2020 6:27 am

      Ryan I really like the article. Everyone forgets my 50 bmg that has a higher ballistic then the 338 Lapua! He was just showing a comparison to show that the little 300 prc isn’t that far behind the big boys. Ease up fellas. I agree with Ryan and the military, I AINT packing the 50 bmg around all day. shoot a freakin missile and be done with it! However for smaller action and non belted cartridge that keeps up… sounds like a decent cartridge to mass produce and keep MOST fellers happy.

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